#88 Sacred Encounters. How Two Kids Who Stuttered Learned to Speak Fearlessly with Modi & Arthur Luxenberg
“My grandmother took me for speech therapy three times a week. It was a very special time together. She built me up by making me feel like I’m special. Like I could do anything.”
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When someone believes in you, it can change who you become.
The voice you’re trying to fix might just be the one the world most needs to hear. Every pause, every stumble, every moment of silence can hold a lesson in courage. And when someone — maybe a mother, a teacher, or a grandmother — believes in you before you believe in yourself, that belief can rewrite the entire story of who you become.
*This conversation was originally recorded for Modi's podcast And Here’s Modi (episode #106), where Uri appeared as a guest with Arthur Luxenberg. We're honored to share it here with Modi's permission. What unfolds is a funny, heartfelt, and deeply human dialogue about fearless communication, self-acceptance, and the power of belief.
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In this episode on the power of belief, we discuss:
Why overcoming stuttering isn’t about perfect speech, but it’s about being heard
The four pillars of Uri’s Transcending Stuttering framework: self-knowledge, self-adjustment, self-acceptance, and self-advocacy
The incredible story of Dr. Phil Schneider’s speech therapy work with the Lubavitcher Rebbe after his stroke
How belief from one person can change the entire trajectory of a child’s life
What comedians and trial attorneys can teach us about fearless communication
Practical do’s and don’ts for supporting a child who stutters, without shame or pressure
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 – Introduction: The Fear We All Share and the Power of Belief
00:01:46 – Meet Modi Rosenfeld and Arthur Luxenberg: Two Kids Who Stuttered and Found Their Voice
00:03:45 – The Story Behind Schneider Speech and the Meaning of “Transcending Stuttering”
00:05:41 – Why Overcoming Stuttering Is About Talking More, Not Less
00:07:33 – From Silence to Self-Expression: Arthur’s Journey and His Grandmother’s Influence
00:12:31 – The Sacred Encounter: Dr. Phil Schneider and the Lubavitcher Rebbe
00:19:59 – What the Rebbe Taught About Dignity, Connection, and Communication Beyond Words
00:21:29 – The Four Pillars of the Transcending Stuttering Framework
00:26:40 – How Comedy, Courtrooms, and Courage Shape Fearless Communicators
00:38:28 – Practical Do’s and Don’ts for Supporting People Who Stutter
00:44:56 – Why Belief Can Change a Life and How to Keep Talking Even When It’s Hard
00:56:45 – Closing Reflections: The World Needs to Hear Your Voice
GUEST BIOS
Modi Rosenfeld, voted one of the top 10 comedians in New York City by The Hollywood Reporter, Modi Rosenfeld is one of the comedy circuit's most sought after performers. Featured on HBO, CBS, NBC, ABC, Comedy Central, Howard Stern, and E! Entertainment, Modi has received rave reviews in The New York Times, Time Out NY and The New York Post.
Born in Tel Aviv, Israel, Modi emigrated with his family to the United States at the age of seven and was raised on Long Island. After graduating from Boston University, he worked as an investment banker until his first open-mic night made him realize that stand-up was his true calling.
Equipped with a sharp wit and a knack for reading an audience, Modi has gone on to become a successful fixture in New York's vibrant comedy scene, often doing bits that incorporate his heritage, and he is a hit with diverse Jewish audiences as well as fans of all backgrounds and beliefs.
Now a regular performer at the New York and Los Angeles comedy clubs, Modi also headlines around the country and across the globe. Modi has played himself on HBO's Crashing and Netflix's When Jews Were Funny. He's also appeared in several feature films and played leading roles in two: Waiting for Woody Allen, which won the LA Film Festival, and Stand Up, a feature-length film. In 2018, Mayor Bill De Blasio declared June 26th 'Mordechi Modi Rosenfeld Day' in the city of New York for his accomplishments and contributions to the artistic community.
Modi is also the host of the podcast ‘And Here’s Modi.’
Arthur M. Luxenberg is an attorney and co-founder of Weitz & Luxenberg P.C., one of New York City’s leading mass-tort and personal injury law firms. He serves on judicial screening and disciplinary committees for the New York State Supreme Court, Appellate Division, and has held leadership roles with the New York State Trial Lawyers Association and the New York City Bar Association. A committed philanthropist, Arthur and his wife, Randi, actively support charitable and humanitarian initiatives worldwide.
Behind the scenes with Periel, Modi, Uri and Arthur
ABOUT OUR HOST
Uri Schneider, M.A. CCC -SLP is co-founder and leader at Schneider Speech; creator and host of TranscendingX podcast community; and former faculty at the University of California, Riverside School of Medicine.
MORE QUOTES
“The most important thing for people who stutter is to keep talking. And for the world to learn to listen.” - Uri Schneider
“The danger of stuttering is less about the words and sounds getting stuck. It's more about not saying what you really want to say.” - Uri Schneider
“Looking in the mirror and seeing you're worth it. You're perfectly imperfect, just like every other human being. That's the way we're made.” - Uri Schneider
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Uri Schneider: Everyone has a reason why they think they can't. In this episode, you'll see yes you can. If you think you can't become a world famous comedian selling out crowds around the world, meet Modi Rosenfeld. If you think you can't become a successful trial attorney, one of the most successful trial attorneys in New York City, meet my friend Arthur Luxenberg. In this episode
originally recorded on Modi's podcast. And here's Modi, episode 1 0 6. I sit down with these two legends and we dive in and we cover everything from stories about my father, Dr. Phil Schneider, the OG with the Lubavitcher Rebbe lots of Moshiach energy stuttering and speech impediments. And the most important thing of all, how they went from kids who doubted themselves to becoming people who knew they could do anything and crushing it.
It starts with maybe a mother believing in their child, maybe a grandmother. And if not that, starting to believe in yourself.
[00:01:00] Modi Rosenfeld: Hello everybody back to, And Here's Modi.
We have
a house full of guests. We have, uh, we have, uh, Arthur Luxenberg back, uh, we have Uri Schneider. Am I saying it right?
[00:01:19] Uri Schneider: I accept all variations. Is it or
[00:01:20] Modi Rosenfeld: Schneider? You got it. Schneider or Schneider? We have Periel and me. We are on a high from uh, we just finished the two shows in Paramount. Periel did a hot five up front and slayed the house down Boots.
It was so fun. It was so good. She wore her first outfit was Rag and Bone and it was gorgeous. And the second outfit was what?
[00:01:43] Periel Schenbrand: It was a Jill Sander blazer and Lafayette 148
[00:01:48] Modi Rosenfeld: pantyhose. The makeup was amazing and you looked great and your husband's in the audience and uh, She told
[00:01:54] Periel Schenbrand: me not to dress like a cleaning lady.
I said
[00:01:56] Modi Rosenfeld: you can't come out with your shmata. I didn't say cleanly. I just said that some of the shirts you wear looks like what we give the housekeeper to use with the Glass Plus. Even though they're 500, but the tishmat, the tishmat that we used to get, don't throw it away. Give it to the housekeeper.
She'll, she'll Glass Plus with it. Um, anyway, we are back in the studio. We of course want to thank up front, our collaborators, friends, sponsors. Weitz & Luxenberg the law firm that not only does well, they do good. They're very philanthropic and they're close friends. They help us. They know that people enjoy this and this brings Mashiach energy and they want to be a part of it and Arthur's in the house.
Also, A& H Provisions. Uh, best glatt kosher meats, uh, best hot dogs, uh, even the goyim realize this, and that's where they get their hot dogs from, uh, and their website is?
[00:02:46] Periel Schenbrand: KosherDogs. net and weitzlux.com or also weitzandlux.Com because I was saying it wrong, so they added a website. Yes.
[00:03:00] Modi Rosenfeld: Arthur just, just so you know, never listens to this, he, his wife gives him the updates and the reviews. You have two websites. Okay. So we, we on the podcast here, when we had Arthur last time, uh, we spoke about stuttering and we had never received so many DMs and emails about this. Most of them from parents of children that stutter and, uh, Uri from, what's the name of the organization?
Schneider speech. Schneider Schneider speech. Not an easy thing to say.
[00:03:33] Uri Schneider: We, I was stuttering also, like it's a funny word for people who have trouble getting words out. S is a hard. Yeah, it's like, and it has the double sound. Did you do that on purpose? We didn't do it. Also, it's in Hebrew also. Gim gum. It always, every, in every language, the word for stuttering has a repetition in
[00:03:48] Modi Rosenfeld: it.
Really? Stutter. It's right. Oh my God. I didn't realize that. Gim gum. And
[00:03:52] Uri Schneider: in Yiddish it's kekitsin. Kekitsin. Kekitsin. In every language it has this.
[00:03:58] Modi Rosenfeld: Kekitsin. It's a good word. So listen, you are the, I, I mean, I've seen the videos from your, uh, uh, about your, your, your work and, uh, and we are here and the number one thing, I, I was calling it tricks to avoid stuttering.
You said it's better to use. techniques or, uh, what were the other words you used?
[00:04:20] Uri Schneider: You can call it anything. I think the important thing is that it shouldn't have like a negative connotation. Like you're trying to like slip something by a trick. If you like trick, that's fine. Tools. Tools. Strategies.
Strategies. Techniques. And I think different words work for different people. You know, when you make jokes about the Holocaust, you talked about the importance of picking the right words. You don't want to trigger the wrong thing. So if you walk into a room and you say, Listen, I have a few speech tricks.
People can think of all kinds of tricks. Magic, yeah. Yeah, so you want to think of things that work for the person. But the most important thing is, it's funny, you do an episode on stuttering, and people start talking. That's right. It's
[00:04:56] Modi Rosenfeld: pretty ironic. One of the stickers you gave me, he was very sweet. He, one of the things I love most is backstage when people send gifts and, uh, people, people send you like a homemade cookies, brownies, uh, a toy or whatever, something from their company and he sent us stickers.
And one of the stickers you had was speak,
[00:05:15] Uri Schneider: talk more, talk more, fearless,
[00:05:17] Modi Rosenfeld: fearless. Yeah. Very, very nice.
[00:05:21] Arthur Luxenberg: Yeah, that would be amazing. Take the
[00:05:23] Uri Schneider: batch. There's a whole set. Yeah. Oh, they're
[00:05:25] Modi Rosenfeld: all different. They're all different. So that's, uh, it's true. I was watching the videos you had of people who were like the one guy that would said he had to speak in class and instead of speaking, he jammed a pencil into his hand.
There's a
[00:05:38] Uri Schneider: crazy thing about that. That's a documentary. It was on PBS. Yeah. And, uh, my dad filmed his work. My dad is Dr. Phil Schneider. He's in Riverdale. He continues to do his work. He's amazing and should be well to 120. He taught at Queens College. He had an office in Great Neck. We drove past her on the way to the show in Huntington.
I took him to the show on Sunday night. Yeah. And, um, it's unbelievable because what he did is he realized stop focusing on the stuttering. It's not about treating stuttering. It's about treating people and helping people talk more. People who stutter want to talk. It's not that they want to stop stuttering.
They think they want to stop stuttering, but what they really want to do is if they want to stop stuttering, Go quiet. But silence is the most dangerous thing. Nobody wants their kid to go dark. Nobody wants their kid to, to be quiet. And so many people who stutter, you don't hear them stutter. And it's interesting when you were having the conversation, some of the ways people cope is just by ducking and dodging and staying safe, staying away from a certain word lest I be heard or exposed.
And so the danger of stuttering is less about the words and sounds getting stuck. It's more about not saying what you really want to say. So,
[00:06:48] Arthur Luxenberg: you know. It's really great to be here again, first of all, and thank you for You're welcome whenever
[00:06:53] Modi Rosenfeld: you want. Thank
[00:06:54] Arthur Luxenberg: you for including me in
this group.
[00:06:55] Modi Rosenfeld: And thank you for wearing what you're wearing.
Those of you who are only listening to this, you have to just go to YouTube just to see the outfit Arthur hit us with today.
[00:07:03] Arthur Luxenberg: So, I also spent a little bit of time, uh, you know, watching some of the documentaries, uh, you and your dad did. And they were very meaningful to me. Uh, because It opened my eyes to certain things that I was not even aware of.
And, um, the biggest thing, because I had formalized training, um, I didn't, you know, overcome, and I don't think you never, you never formally overcome stuttering. You're always on edge about it. But unlike you, I went to Long Island Jewish, uh, speech and hearing for many, many years. Um, just mentioning his name, I don't know if he'll ever hear this, uh, uh, gabbling the name of, uh, Arthur Jacobs, doctor, Arthur Jacobs.
And I actually spoke to him about a year or two ago and, um, we worked extensively on, uh, techniques. And you know, if we have a chance to talk about that today, you know, we should, uh, because it's a lot different from the takeaway that I got. from you and your dad. Um, and you and your dad's techniques and, um, uh, the way you approach this was very, very interesting in giving the stutterers, giving the community and people that are, uh, um, I don't want to even call it afflicted because it's just a facing
[00:08:37] Uri Schneider: this adversity challenge with this challenge
[00:08:40] Arthur Luxenberg: with this adversity.
Um, a way to get comfortable with it without necessarily overcoming it. Learning how to be comfortable with your stutter and not necessarily finding a trick. Sure, there are ways and techniques and there are, uh, things that children and adults, uh, who, who are, uh, overcome with this, you know, can learn. But the biggest thing would be that teaching.
people to live with this effectively, which I just want to, again, go on record, you know, as saying that I'm a much greater advocate for speech therapy, because I think that in a lot of situations, children, of course, um, If they're living in a community where they feel safe, finally, amongst people that are similar to them, and they're never going out and challenging themselves and going to high schools and colleges and starting to work.
You know, the worst thing, and I watched the documentaries I did, Periel, and I formally apologize to you for jumping down your throat in the middle of the night, for sending me the Schneider homework, you know, in the middle of the night.
[00:10:04] Modi Rosenfeld: We're talking about videos that you're, you're
[00:10:07] Uri Schneider: My father and I produced two documentaries.
One is called Transcending Stuttering and one's called, uh, The Guide. Going with the Flow. The Guide to Transcending. And it's real people. It's the story of real people growing
[00:10:17] Arthur Luxenberg: up. And what they been through. They weren't I thought I was gonna hear about techniques and Not at all. It was all about the psychological impact of these children and learning how to overcome that and get through it.
And look at you and I, Modi. Yeah. And I don't know who in your family was a stutterer, or maybe your father was just a renowned speech therapist and realized this, but I'm telling you, Modi and Uri, we need to light this up. And I think, Modi, that you are the perfect touchstone for this. And I think I am as well.
For sure. Because I'll support it. I'll support it financially. I want to blow this up. Okay. I want to blow it up. I think that we have to give back besides all the incredible, uh, Jewish, um, uh, Jewish charities that we're involved in. Um, this is something that's near and dear to our hearts and we have thrived in life because of it.
And despite it, And I think that we owe a great deal to our afflictions that we've managed to not overcome but live with and become the top of our professions. And I think that we need to do something.
[00:11:45] Modi Rosenfeld: The Rebbe said when Jews meet, the first thing they should do is discuss how to help somebody else.
[00:11:52] Uri Schneider: We gotta come back to my dad, Moshiach Energy, when the Rebbe had his second stroke.
they needed a speech therapist.
[00:11:59] Arthur Luxenberg: No. Yeah.
[00:12:00] Uri Schneider: I mean, I saw that in my father was not a religious man. I read that he wasn't, he didn't know who this Rabbi Schneerson was. Oh, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, which we've heard so much from you on the podcast and everywhere. Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson Chabad. Wow. So this person had a command of what more than 15 languages.
Yeah. He had a stroke and suddenly he couldn't communicate. Yeah. Not only was he a leader in this sect, he was running a global enterprise and all kinds of decisions, financial decisions, interpersonal. So the, the two people that were helping the Rebbe, they care of the Rebbe, they called my father and they said, uh, Dr.
Schneider, you know, you, you could do a much better Brooklyn Lubavitch phone call. Hi, this is, you know, this is Goldberg, this is Goldberg, you know, we need you to, you're, you're going to come, you're going to come treat this Rabbi. My dad says, I don't do house calls, uh, I don't know who this is, and I'm also not the person that is the best person to help someone after a stroke.
I'm happy to help connect you. And uh, they wouldn't take no for an answer, they'd say no, we'll send you a car. He says, no, no, you don't understand. I'm not the, I'm not that guy. Wow. So, so that night, so that night he goes, he goes, he goes to sleep and he turns, he rebuffed them. He said, he speaks it over with my mother.
[00:13:16] Modi Rosenfeld: He speaks it over with my mother. That was Yiddish. Go ahead. That was basically Yiddish with English words.
[00:13:23] Uri Schneider: It was, it was, yeah. So he has a discussion with my mom. He doesn't make the final decision. He knows to run it by the boss. And my wife and my mother, my mother says, I think you should help this man.
I think you should help him. Wow. Now what my father does next is what really blew me away. You got to go all in and this comes to stuttering too. Like if you're hedging, what you want to say, you're going to stumble and stutter whether you stutter or not. And if you stutter even more so, my father didn't hedge and say, well, what time can you meet my schedule?
Can you do, my father said, when is he most alert? Anyone knows the Lubavitcher Rebbe was always most alert at four in the morning. My father said, send the car at 3 a. m. Oh my God. So I was, I was 12 and a half. And, uh, my father was treating the Rebbe. I didn't get to see the Rebbe, but my dad had private time with the Lubavitcher Rebbe.
Wow. And he wasn't speaking. And I learned how to put on tefillin downstairs. In 770 with Rabbi Groner and Rabbi Krinsky
[00:14:22] Modi Rosenfeld: Wow! No, that, that you didn't tell me until
[00:14:25] Uri Schneider: now? Wanted to leave something good.
[00:14:27] Modi Rosenfeld: We got lots more. I did not see that happening. Did you? So
[00:14:30] Uri Schneider: my father, my father has some incredible stories.
First of all, Everybody, every
[00:14:34] Modi Rosenfeld: rabbi that the rebbe, every rabbi that the rebbe Every rabbi that ever helped the Rebbe has such insane stories.
[00:14:42] Uri Schneider: Yeah. So my father, and it also ties into everything, his ethos and his way and with stuttering. He came in and he said that the two rabbis were holding him, like locking his arms because they saw he didn't know exactly how to interact.
What was the conduct? What was the culture? What were the codes? So they walked my father in holding him tight. And he sees a person who on the one hand should be in a hospital, maybe, But they've set up this room so beautifully with such respect and such dignity. And instead of having like a robe with the backside open, satin robe with like buttons so they could access, get a line in, get a line out, but everything very dignified, very.
So that was the first lesson my father takes like how we should treat people who are older and people who might be not well. Yeah. And the way people are treated in hospitals, they like strips people of all their horrible comes in.
And the Rebbe is not speaking. And they said, do you think he'll be able to give a, a, a Febregen?
Do you think he'll be able to, my father said, well, what's a Febregen? So he says, well, it's, it's kind of like where there's thousands of these Hasidim hanging on every word. And without any notes, he's pulling up sources seamlessly for hours on end, speaking mellifluously. And my father's looking at a man who just had his second stroke.
And he's not speaking. And he's being brought in to ask, can he also make decisions? So my father says, I don't know, but let's try. I don't know, but let's try. It's also a big lesson. I don't know, but if you don't ask, the answer is always no. So I try. So my father, um, basically the first question that was, there were letters being sent to the Lubavitcher Rebbe to ask him to make big decisions.
They wanted to know, could he understand, did he have the ability to understand and could he give answers that were reliable and what would be the code? So my father said, We're going to take three people. One is a Yiddish speaker, one is an English speaker, one is a Hebrew speaker. My father took the English.
They presented the question in both ways, you know, a yes or no. And they asked him a question about a financial decision that came in from somewhere in Australia. And my father said, just look at the Rebbe. And then we'll come together and compare our notes what the answer is. And so they asked him six ways.
They compared their notes, they all got the exact same answer. Just by looking at his eyes. Wow. The second question was a young woman who was set up in an arranged marriage to marry a divorcee. And he was older. And she wasn't, she wasn't in for this. And she wanted to know if she could, if she could cancel this arranged marriage.
And they all agreed that the Rebbe's answer was yes. It was full agreement. And the point was that beyond words. You look at the face, you look into the eyes, you look into the soul, and you see, you see what's there. And so my father was able, thank God, to help Chabad Lubavitch see the Rebbe knew what was happening, he was able to be dependable in his decisions.
My father wasn't able to help him get to the point where he could give a Fabrengin again. Right. But, uh, he had many sacred encounters. That was his first encounter with a person of the magnitude of the Rebbe. Sacred encounters. That's what my dad calls it. There you go. The podcast. My dad says every phone call that we get and every meeting that we have should be a sacred
[00:18:00] Arthur Luxenberg: encounter.
Wow.
[00:18:02] Modi Rosenfeld: Amazing. Amazing. So that's the prelude. They asked, when the Rebbe had a stroke, they changed 770, they put him in the back, but everything was always with dignity and beautiful and you felt his energy still, yeah. The other
[00:18:16] Uri Schneider: thing that he did, the Rebbe, they built, as you said, they turned it around, they built a balcony.
Yeah. They broke a wall from his study, which was the room they were taking care of him, into the study hall, so that he could not have to go downstairs and around, there was no tunnel then, but just go out the balcony and, and see the Hasidim. And uh, they brought him out and he, no one knew if he'd be able to speak.
He's standing there and nothing's coming out and for the community it was very painful because they hadn't seen him. They so much wanted to see and to hear. it's, it's, it's a painful, traumatic experience for the community. But my father takes away is that you see his attendants trying to pull him back, but you see his determination.
And he stood there for a very long time. And my father feels that in standing there, he was also transmitting a message. Yeah. Beyond words.
[00:19:09] Modi Rosenfeld: Wow. Wow. Wow. I didn't see that coming through. There you go. Thank you.
[00:19:13] Uri Schneider: Wow. But what Arthur said, I think is really important, which is, It shouldn't be misunderstood that the work with people who stutter should be just psychological and emotional.
We need to integrate the two sides. So we created a framework called Transcending Stuttering framework. There's four parts. One is self knowledge, to know what is stuttering. Who are you? What are your strengths? What are your weaknesses? What are your interests? What are your talents? Understanding that. So many people that stutter don't know what makes me stutter more.
What makes me stutter less? I'm so, I'm so busy shadowboxing with this thing, but I don't know what it's all about, and I don't know what I'm all about. What do I really want? The second thing is self adjustment, which is the techniques, the training, just like you would train for golf or for tennis. There are things you can learn.
It's like shifting gears. When you shift gears, the engine performs differently. So there are things you can learn mechanically and drill. The third thing is that self acceptance. Looking in the mirror and seeing you're worth it. You're perfectly imperfect, just like every other human being. That's the way we're made.
And love yourself. Love yourself up. Because if you love yourself, other people will come to love you too. And then the fourth is self advocacy. Which is what we're doing here and what you talked about, Arthur. And Modi, for having this conversation. Talking about it. Putting it out there. Whether you're a young person or a parent.
Telling the teacher what's up. telling people in your family, in your circle, how you want them to respond when it comes up. So they'll be more comfortable. You'll be more comfortable and you can have real connections. So those are the four
[00:20:44] Arthur Luxenberg: pieces. Yeah. And, and that's, and that's an interesting thing.
Breaking it down that way is very, very helpful, um, in the community, which I never did, you know, and I, I mentioned off camera, maybe we were on camera before that. I watched one of the podcasts or one of the documentaries that you and your dad did. You know, it was very emotional to me because, you know, I haven't studied this in a very long time.
I had extensive therapy. And when, um, I saw how painful it was for some of these younger children, um, that you highlighted in the, um, documentaries and I watched all of them and I, uh, appreciate the diversity. of children, um, and young adults that you presented. You presented them from, you know, from, it looked like observant to inner city youth.
And it was good to see that because I have my own views on that and people that can get help and people that aren't getting help. But I really, but what I'm saying to you, to you is that I never remember. having one single example of being ridiculed or criticized never one. And I was a profound stutterer.
So it was very odd to me. Did I block it out? Did I not remember this? Or not care.
[00:22:26] Modi Rosenfeld: Maybe, I don't know, maybe there was, you just don't
[00:22:29] Arthur Luxenberg: remember it. Yeah, but I'm a very, like, sensitive person. Okay. So I don't know if I was sensitive as a kid. So I call my mother. Right? And one thing about my mother and my family, we were, like, very supportive of each other.
And, you know, my, it was my grandmother, and I think I might have said this before, it was my grandmother that took me, uh, for speech therapy, uh, three times a week. And it wasn't, like, going across the street or next door. It was going from Queens, going from Queens, going to Long Island to pick me up from school, taking me to Long Island Jewish Hospital, waiting for me there.
and driving me back to Woodmere. So it was a very special time that we spent together and she built me up by making me feel like I'm special. I could do anything along the lines of what you and your dad did. And
[00:23:24] Uri Schneider: Any anecdotes you remember with your
[00:23:26] Arthur Luxenberg: grandmother? There were endless anecdotes. I mean, I would say to her, and I was almost, I was in college at this point, uh, at the end of high school, going into college.
And I, I would say to my grandmother, I, I'm not afraid to admit, you know, that I felt I was ordinary. Um, I, I felt that way. I, I, I didn't feel I was extraordinary. I felt like I was a regular kid. You know what, you know, ordinary kid and she's telling me how extraordinary I am and how I could do anything and I'm gonna be something great and I would say to her You know grandma, that's so great, but I don't get it.
You know, I'm Just very ordinary and I have a speech uh, a speech impediment, you know, how do I get there? She says, you'll see. And I don't know if she ever saw, you know, my successes, whatever those are. Uh, but you know, she gets the credit. So when I called my mother, I said to her, I said, mom, you know, what's the story?
Do you have any stories of me coming home, you know, talking about being shattered and broken? And she said, no, you know, you, I guess, lived in a great environment at a time when, you know, you had teachers that also supported this and you never let it happen to you that, you know, and I, because I've listened to old recordings of myself, you know, and I said to myself, it's not like I'm speaking normally.
I'm clearly, have a real problem, which is why I went for therapy for many years. And, um, I needed to get the help, but I never, I never felt that. So it was very emotional that children were feeling that way. And I said to myself, I got to do something about this. It's not just getting them. Uh, the physical help and treatment and because I guess sometimes and some of the comments that we got was, Oh, Luxenberg is wrong.
You know, uh, you can't be in a room alone. And not stutter. I said, yeah, people, people, it jumped on me. Jumped on you for that. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm a doctor.
[00:25:55] Uri Schneider: I'm saying for me, Stutterers are like Jews, you know, they don't have one opinion. You state opinion, you're going to have somebody that's going to disagree with you.
Everybody's got a different
[00:26:02] Modi Rosenfeld: stuttering thing. And that's fine. But I said for me,
[00:26:05] Arthur Luxenberg: but I said for me, you know, um, I'm in a room alone.
[00:26:10] Uri Schneider: I'll tell you what my father
[00:26:11] Modi Rosenfeld: said. Well you, I can never, when you and I first began hanging out, I never would have thought
[00:26:17] Uri Schneider: you were a stutterer. Well he doesn't stutter like stuttering John.
He doesn't stutter,
[00:26:20] Modi Rosenfeld: but he doesn't stutter at all. We, we've had dinners together. I think maybe months later he tells me he's a stutterer because he saw me stuttering. And then
[00:26:28] Arthur Luxenberg: um. But
I never saw you that way either. because I just saw you as the funniest guy. No, but you, I get
[00:26:35] Modi Rosenfeld: caught at a dinner. I'll get caught.
I just try to get something
[00:26:38] Arthur Luxenberg: out. I just thought that was one of your affectations. I never viewed that. That's good to know. I never viewed that as, and when you're on stage, unless you're really blocking and I know that's a stutterer, I know that's a stutterer. Yeah. Um, I never thought we were together at Dina's house and other places.
A lot. You're on stage a lot. You don't stutter on stage.
[00:27:01] Modi Rosenfeld: It's um, so it's very funny you say that. I stutter on stage when it's new material and I'm not sure what words to use. Right, you've said that. At the show in, at the show in Huntington, Long Island at the Paramount, I was about to do a new bit and I was exhausted and I said, this is not going to come out cute.
It was a bit about, because we're in Long Island and it's all of the, the communities Roslyn and Great Neck and this point and that point, and yeah, you know, all the rich neighborhoods and um, and what's funny now, and we also had the guy from the diner with the posters all over the, the hostage posters all over the diner.
That was Gold Globes. And I wanted to say something along the lines, like, I love how all the Jews are on missions now. They all go on missions to Israel. They go on these programs to Israel. And they're all trying to up outdo each other. My mission is staying at, we're staying at the King David. I'm at the Citadel.
We're going to get t shirts and the dog tag, but ours is in gold. We're going to barbeque with the soldiers right on the border. We're going to barbeque everywhere. In the tunnel . I'm actually gonna make my daughter's bat mitzvah in the tunnel with glatt kosher tunnels. It's, it's, um, it's, uh, the old, and here's Modi, and I was gonna do this bit on stage, but I said I am too tired to get all of these words out in my mind.
I had it, I knew where the taglines were. It's the it, the barbecue in the tunnel, the gold instead of this. Silver dog tag, and which hotel they're staying in, and then you can throw in like lamb chops and you know, things that the Jews know. But I was like, wow, I, cause I was on, I was, I was in fifth
[00:28:44] Arthur Luxenberg: gear.
You were a.
[00:28:46] Modi Rosenfeld: Beast. So I said, Modi, you are way too tired to start doing a new bit now. And the words are going to come out. I remember one time when I did this, the bit on those stupid presidents of the schools. And I, and that was just, it was that day. And I said, I sent it and I stuttered through the entire bit.
You told me to watch it. I sent it to Arthur right away. Just in case you think I don't stutter here, I couldn't get one word out, but it was funny. I stayed with it. I couldn't get the word genocide out, killing. It was a mess, but it was a funny bit, it got a lot of hits. But okay. So Tachlis.
[00:29:25] Uri Schneider: But what's interesting, what's interesting, this is Tachlis and then when he, Arthur, and you had the same conversation in the other interview.
Where Arthur's saying to you, I didn't know you stuttered. And you're saying, no, no, I, I'm telling you, I was stuttering. And so you had this narrative of yourself stuttering, and a lot of it was probably not even visible on the outside. It was how you were maneuvering on the inside. And I think that we need to acknowledge that That is a big schvitz.
That's a lot of energy that people consume. I mean, what both of you do is hard enough to be a class act in your craft, but then to have to say, okay, it's like a taboo game. We got like many words. We're going to not say we have many potholes we have to navigate. It's exhausting, and the experience in here doesn't match what's out here.
So parents sometimes don't recognize what the kid's going through. Oh, no, no, you're fine. Oh. Because they don't stutter like Stuttering John, or someone else they saw on a movie that's st st st st st st stuttering, and blinking, and moving, and and and getting and wrestling with every word. People, oh, that's stuttering.
You don't stutter. And then people say, no, no, like I need to prove to you. I'm telling you, I know, like you said, the words are lined up, the bits lined up. It's all, it's actually awesome. Yeah. I don't trust it's going to come. Nix it.
[00:30:44] Arthur Luxenberg: But what we could never allow guys and lady, what we could never allow is a situation where one of the people you had on, a very meaningful man, um, and we watched him get older in life, and he seemed to be a lot more fluent than he ever was, and he said it was a scene in like a supermarket.
Yeah. Uh, where he actually had to pretend to be retarded. Oh my god. In, in order to, I was hysterical. I mean, I can't even talk about it now because it was so emotional that it was so, he was in such a bad shape and had to get out of that situation that it was better for him to be retarded than for him to go through whatever he was going through at that moment.
We can never allow for there not to be a better heightened awareness. We need to take billboards out to address this. Okay. To address this in a meaningful way, using some of the things that you're using, working with you and your dad, working with you, Modi. We can never allow people to think that a person that's presented as a stutterer is retarded or has Tourette's.
Not that these are not diseases that also need to be highlighted and need to be overcome and need to be worked on. But what we're working on now is stuttering and we need to make sure that people don't confuse a stutterer with other diseases that just don't correlate to stuttering. To
[00:32:36] Periel Schenbrand: stuttering. I think it's also giving people the power of their voice.
Like imagine what the world would miss if stutterers don't speak.
[00:32:47] Arthur Luxenberg: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what a great, by the way. Whoa.
Whoa. Right. Yes. Like you don't even have to close the show. No, I have one more thing. No, but I'm saying, Perry, just imagine what the world would miss if stutterers didn't speak. And there were some very famous stutterers. You'd be missing a sponsor
[00:33:17] Uri Schneider: for the podcast. Uh, uh, Marilyn,
[00:33:19] Arthur Luxenberg: Marilyn Monroe was a stutterer.
Uh, there was a whole Jack Welch, Jack Welch, I mean,
[00:33:28] Uri Schneider: and he didn't have time for speech therapy. That was his attitude. He said, I just don't give a, and he just went forward.
[00:33:33] Arthur Luxenberg: Um, John Stossel, John
[00:33:35] Periel Schenbrand: Stossel, we've had him. Yeah.
[00:33:37] Arthur Luxenberg: Uh, John Stossel. Was he ever on the podcast? No.
[00:33:40] Periel Schenbrand: We've had, we've had him on the cellar podcast, but we should have him on this.
[00:33:44] Arthur Luxenberg: Absolutely. John Stossel.
[00:33:47] Uri Schneider: Stutterers are everywhere. You do the podcast and they all come out of the woodwork. But how do
[00:33:50] Arthur Luxenberg: we help the stutterers? Wait,
[00:33:51] Periel Schenbrand: I just want to say, I just want to say one thing quickly. After, um, the show in Huntington. Yeah. I don't know. Somebody came and said, this guy's in the back and maybe Leo texted me and he spoke to Leo and this and that.
And so I was in, while I was talking to Uri and Dr. Dr. Schneider and I started Dr. Phil, he's the original Dr. Phil. The, the, the GOAT of um, speech therapy apparently. And I said, you know, this is really interesting for me because my oldest and best friend from growing up is a stutterer. And so she was always like my little sister and she had a very bad stutter.
Very good
[00:34:31] Uri Schneider: stutter. Very strong stutter. Or a
[00:34:33] Periel Schenbrand: very good stutter. See, that's where the language matters.
[00:34:35] Uri Schneider: There you go, the specificity of language. Exactly, the specificity, the precision, because if a parent says to the kid, Oh, did you have a, did you have a good talking day? Is that kid going to want to take a risk tomorrow?
Wow. So messaging to kids, good, bad, the sooner we can get to descriptive language, you could say one to ten. Ten is really fluid. Oh, those are the
[00:34:57] Modi Rosenfeld: stutterers. Wow. Winston Churchill, Joel Roberts, Ed Sheeran. Samuel L. Jackson. Joe Biden, who we spoke
[00:35:05] Uri Schneider: about. Samuel L. Jackson is very interesting. Moses. Moses should have been in there.
There you go. Ed Sheeran. Wow. Uh,
[00:35:12] Arthur Luxenberg: but I'm not sure. Moses.
[00:35:14] Periel Schenbrand: How do they know Moses? I thought you were making that up. I thought you were being
[00:35:18] Arthur Luxenberg: funny.
[00:35:18] Uri Schneider: Oh, I get a whole bit on that.
[00:35:20] Arthur Luxenberg: What do you mean? Moses, when when he was, you know, going to the Kohl's. Right. Instead of they redirected him and he he. His first thing when God said to him, you're gonna be the leader.
You gotta go, you know, lead the Jewish people and take them out of Egypt. And he said, me, I tell me I can't, I have a speech that I'm heart of speech. Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. It's in there directly
[00:35:43] Uri Schneider: in, right there in Exodus. Directly in the book. Well,
[00:35:45] Periel Schenbrand: I have to admit, oh, Perry
[00:35:47] Modi Rosenfeld: I, that you've never read the to.
Right. It's what you have to admit. Never, you never read that Torah accident.
[00:35:52] Arthur Luxenberg: But I, and that's why a own, and that's why a own his brother, you know, became. so important to him because he was sort of his spokesperson. Wow.
[00:36:04] Modi Rosenfeld: Welcome to being Jewish. Yes. There's a Torah. Feel free. Feel free to read the Torah.
It's really interesting.
[00:36:09] Periel Schenbrand: I can't read the Torah right now because I'm reading the five people you meet in heaven, but wait, let me.
[00:36:14] Arthur Luxenberg: Okay. It's a hundred pages. So
[00:36:17] Periel Schenbrand: I meet Dr. Phil. Yeah. OG Phil. And I'm telling him my best friend growing up had a very strong stutter, so I really grew up and she used to go to camp for this.
And Dr. Phil says to me, um, what's her name? And I'm, you know, I'm like, you know, it's so crazy after the show and everybody's talking and I'm like, you know, I didn't really have like a clear sense of like who
[00:36:43] Uri Schneider: you guys were. You were busy talking to Peter. It was like
[00:36:45] Periel Schenbrand: unclear. That's right. We just come from the hostage diner.
It was like a whole thing. And, um, but Your dad's so intense and like, we were like, it was like a very like focused conversation. Like I was almost getting like almost like a sacred encounter, almost like a sacred kind of good callback, good callback. Um, and he said, what was her name? And I said, I told him her name and he said, um, she was my student.
That's great. And then he said, can we make her
[00:37:15] Arthur Luxenberg: a video? Oh, which one, which one?
[00:37:18] Uri Schneider: She helped catalog some of the clips to make those documentary films. Erica did? Yeah, that's what my father remembers. Wow. But you said, yeah, my dad said, can I send her a video message? So,
[00:37:27] Periel Schenbrand: and so I sent it to her from the show and she was over the moon.
She was in California and she loves you. And so she, I mean, that was just so amazing. Wait, can we,
[00:37:39] Modi Rosenfeld: can we, so I don't want to lose track here. How are we helping people? How
[00:37:43] Arthur Luxenberg: are we going to figure
[00:37:43] Modi Rosenfeld: it out? Right this second, we have to start somewhere where someone can go get help. So we're going to. Just for us, when the DMs start coming in from this, where can my kid get help?
Where can, what
[00:37:54] Uri Schneider: can I do with my child? So we can set up a page that you can send people that will have some very practical do's and don'ts. Practical things to do. It doesn't help anybody to tell them don't do this, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this. Oh, it's so,
[00:38:04] Modi Rosenfeld: it's so individualized,
[00:38:06] Uri Schneider: the stuttering.
But there are certain definite no no's. So telling a kid, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up. Take a deep breath, relax, think about what you want to say. Those are all messages that are going to hold a kid back. Okay, let
[00:38:18] Arthur Luxenberg: me start off this way. That's your technique. Well, let me start off this way. Yeah. Let me say this.
Okay? We'll talk offline. I'm committing a certain amount of money to people, to scholarships, that people that come into your organization that don't have the means or insurance to pay. I'm committing a certain amount of money right now to champion, uh, those children. For your organization and us to do something and I'm hoping Modi will do some kind of a show on a grand level That will raise a ton of money and you'll hopefully contribute, you know money towards that also where we can Put together a scholarship fund for these Uh, you know, children and young adults and people that can't afford and have no opportunity to get.
Any help. I'm talking about both kinds of help, the actual training. And I'm talking about the emotional, the emotional help that gets a person through the day so that they don't feel. Menuchas Hanefesh, guys, is everything. Okay. I pray for it. You know, just, just lightness of the heart, you know, that we, we have a day that we just don't, aren't overcome with, with difficulties.
And these children, I think from what I've seen, you know, in the last week since you asked me to come on and I've actually studied some of this, you know, is overwhelming to me. And so I'm willing, whether you do a show or not, I'm willing because I'm looking for something. And I think, I think I want to ride that.
I want to ride that with you and your dad. So, I think it's a great, uh, opportunity that we've joined, you know, today. By the way, just, just, I know we're 10 50, uh, I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna say this. It's a, it was a funny thing. Yeah. So, you know, I never liked going to a courtroom unprepared. So like, I'm going to meet this, uh, famous, uh, speech guy, you know, you know, Phil Schneider.
So I'm, you know, yelling at my people in the office, give me everything on Phil Schneider, you know, give me, give me volumes, you know, and they're sending me things. And, you know, my son in law, uh, my son in law, uh, shows me that, uh, in WhatsApp. Uh, there's a new like AI, uh, right? So he says, watch this, you know, you could ask it anything.
So I, I say, send me stuff on Phil Schneider, you know, on Phil Schneider, anyway, sends me stuff. They send me these documentaries, okay, whatever, it's just documentaries. I'm laying in bed like, you know, two o'clock in the morning and I'm watching one of these documentaries. It's on UFOs, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a UFOs.
I'm saying myself, the guy was also a UFO, like a famous UFO doctor. Dr. Phil Schneider. Your dad's a
[00:41:28] Uri Schneider: UFO guy. So if you go to look up the YouTube video, it's like tens of thousands of hits and comments. Oh, it's the wrong Dr. Phil. There's a guy, Phil Schneider, who was a conspiracy theorist who disappeared.
And so when you look him up,
[00:41:41] Arthur Luxenberg: I'm calling my people, I'm yelling at them. You sent me the wrong Schneider. I go, you crazy? It's spelled this way, not that way. And then, and then, uh, I realized it's that AI thing, right? The dangers of AI, right? People have to talk. The dangers of AI. So anyway, your dad's got to make sure that, you know, you know, he comes up first.
Absolutely. That's
[00:42:05] Modi Rosenfeld: great. How can people reach out to your organization and find out about you? What are the
[00:42:10] Uri Schneider: websites? I mean, the easy thing is schneiderspeech. com. That's the private practice. Spell it out. S C H N E I D E R S P E E C H dot com. Um, that's our private practice, and we have offices in person, and we also have teletherapy.
We also have, we've always wanted to make sure that we don't just help people who have resources and have means, and when we don't have partners to provide scholarships, we created something called TranscendingX. com. Uh, T R A N S C E N D I N G X dot com created a podcast called Transcending Stuttering and we have a community around that.
A private online community for people who stutter, a private online community for therapists who want to learn how to do this life changing work. And so in this way, we're reaching a global audience of people and transcending financial barriers, geographic barriers, all barriers, because in the end, when human beings learn how to be their best.
And they can bring out the best in other people. I think the key from, from Arthur's story is his grandmother put a belief in his head of Mashiach energy. Mashiach is believing that the world to come will come. Yeah. Even though I don't see it right now. I look around, the world is upside down. It's the furthest thing from, but I have a belief that it can happen.
Yes. And when you put that belief into a person, that's the agent of change. And I think as much as Arthur talks about the therapist and not to downplay the therapist, when my father and I interview people like yourselves, it might be interesting to hear from you, Modi. What was the change? What was the game change?
What drove you to be able to transcend stuttering or however you think about it? Most people say it was a certain person, a certain adult, a certain caring, it might be a teacher, a family member, a parent. So I think that's the key, it's really highlighting. If parents are asking what they can do, if teachers are asking, listen to what changes a kid's life.
It's putting belief that they could be somebody, that they could do something that they doubt they could do. What was the change for you? What
[00:44:11] Modi Rosenfeld: was the biggest thing for you? From watching your documentary, I remember when I realized I was a stutterer. When it was, I think, first or second grade, and I was asked, we had to say something, and I said it, and, uh, the teacher said, wow, that came out perfect.
So I go, are you saying everything else I've been saying has not come out perfect? And that's when I realized, oh, I have a problem. And my, I don't know what the other thing was. I'll tell you a funny thing with your grandmother. I was a horrible student. So at Hofstra university, which is far from the five towns, there was a program that my mother used to drive me to and then wait for me.
And it didn't help a thing. It was the effort that she came and she used to drive, we should drive back and forth. And you, we used to listen to, uh, Avram Fried and Yoram Go'on in the, in the tapes back in the tapes. Yeah. And, um, and, uh, uh, it didn't help a thing. And, um, like, like your, your grandmother said, um, he, he, you're special.
You this, I remember, I remember this so clearly. We were in the guidance counselor's office and he's saying to my mother, Modi's very, very smart and very, very good. She goes, he's not so smart, but he's not an idiot. He's not so. He doesn't have to be in the remedial class. She wanted to keep me out of the remedial class.
I can, and I should stay in the regular class. I would have loved that other class instead of, um, I swear to God, my mother's, you know, my mother, my mother's zero editing, nothing, just comes right out. Um, but, uh, but, um, a big change in my life besides, ee. learning my, my techniques alone was taking voice lessons.
It was when I was taking voice lessons and they showed me how to put everything up front, take it out from back here and put it all in the facial mask. And then, um, you know, that was a big, that was a big, big, uh, difference in my speech. So if I can catch that breath before I go, And then move it to the front, rather than back here.
Hee, hee! Instead of, uh, hey! It's a, it's a big, big
[00:46:22] Uri Schneider: difference in my, that make. You do that while you're speaking in the podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're thinking about your tonal focus? Oh, yeah.
[00:46:28] Modi Rosenfeld: Especially if I'm about to go into a bit. I grab the air, and then, and then, hey! Bring the bit out like that, in the front voice.
I'm an hour and ten minutes, not yelling, but loud on stage. You can't, you, otherwise you'd have no voice.
[00:46:43] Uri Schneider: Do you ever let that down? .... Like, just put, let it go? What do you mean? Not focus on that. Like, when you're at home, having an intimate conversation, are you also doing that? No. No.
Because you're at home. That's for
[00:46:56] Arthur Luxenberg: performance.
[00:46:56] Uri Schneider: Yeah, it's a performance. I think for kids, when parents start reminding their kids, remember, do your voice thing. Do your breathing thing. Yeah. That's not where a kid should be so self conscious. Tremendous respect to Arthur's fit. Every time, right? But I imagine, Arthur, there are times you put on pajamas?
And I'm sure they're lovely too. I'm
[00:47:16] Modi Rosenfeld: sure they're gorgeous. I'm sure they must be stunning. And
[00:47:19] Arthur Luxenberg: his name is everywhere.
[00:47:20] Periel Schenbrand: Arthur. They're like Julian Schnabel. And
[00:47:23] Arthur Luxenberg: on
[00:47:23] Modi Rosenfeld: the back it says, Schlupf
[00:47:25] Arthur Luxenberg: Gesundheit. Guys, I don't want to disappoint anybody, but I sleep in my underwear. Okay, perfect. Well, that's even better.
By the way, very nice underwear.
[00:47:36] Uri Schneider: I don't even want to start visioning that. But my father's line is nobody should feel they have to dress in formal attire and talk in a formal, controlled way all the time. Right. So we have to tell kids they can just be themselves and equip them with the ability to dress up when they want to, to have that new gear in their, in their transmission that they can kick it into that gear when and where they want to.
[00:47:59] Arthur Luxenberg: Because I think that, and the takeaway from the documentaries were that kids felt that by. always being on in that way, they lost their voice. It wasn't them. And there was, uh, a very interesting piece where, um, your dad asked, um, a young child to take breaths between, you know, each and they, you know, ask them, well, and the, the child was much more fluent when he would concentrate very hard on taking breaths.
And then your father asked him how difficult was that on a scale of 1 to 10 and this was a very young, astute child and said, you know, that was like an 8. And then he says, just talk now.
[00:48:53] Uri Schneider: He says, which
[00:48:53] Arthur Luxenberg: way do you feel better? Which way? Which way do you prefer? And he said, and he said, and he said, The other way was he was painfully blocking and stuttering and trying to get through just a couple of words.
And it looked like this was the most painful experience you would ever go through as a child. And when your father says, which was easier for you? He said, the other way where I'm blocking on every word and stuttering because it's a natural, this is how I am. And yeah, I could be more fluent, but it takes enormous effort, you know, and I'm also, um, you know, I'm always on, you know, I am never without being aware of a word that I might block on.
And there have been a number of them in this hour where. I just substituted, or
[00:49:51] Modi Rosenfeld: cancelled, or Whenever I speak to you, whenever you ask you a question, you always do this thing with your face, you go
[00:50:00] Arthur Luxenberg: and then you answer. That may not always be, but there are different things. There's like I don't know if that's how you should do it, Modi.
Right, yeah. It'd be like But that might just be my And that's a big pause. Yeah, yeah. But I don't think that that's paused. Whereas if you
[00:50:15] Modi Rosenfeld: ask me about it, it's, bluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluh I'm like, bluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluhbluh right away.
[00:50:18] Arthur Luxenberg: Bluhbluhbluh. Yeah, there have been a lot of things that I've adapted over the years that have helped me.
Um, as I said, I had extensive training, um, and it was using, you know, a lot of different methods and I didn't, you know, the interesting thing is, was I didn't learn any of those methods from your dad. You know, your dad really focused on the emotional relationships and emotional And, and, you know, I wanted a, I thought we were going to get into that today,
[00:50:53] Uri Schneider: you know.
I'll say one word about it. is that the techniques and the tools are not rocket science. You don't need, you don't need a documentary on that. That's, that's right. You can give me practically any person in the room, I can help them get their words out like this. The question is, the magic, is how do you bring it to life?
How do you make it a new, comfortable skin? To be comfortable in your own skin, to be able to do this
[00:51:16] Arthur Luxenberg: easy, in real life. But I want to say, but I want to say, with this therapist, Arthur Jacobs, Who's now a much older man. I did this, you know, 40 years ago. Um, we used to go across the street to the mall, going to the store
[00:51:36] Modi Rosenfeld: with you.
That was one of the, the, the, the, the,
[00:51:38] Arthur Luxenberg: the, we physically went to those difficult places that the phone, we started off with the phone, call the airlines. And we had all this videotaped and, uh, tape recorded how I sounded when we first began, how I sounded two years later, how I sounded four years later. And then we would go across the street, go into a restaurant, order something, you know, where you, you would hear on the videos, a young girl who was panicked.
She would be in a bathroom. Uh, she would, she would go to the bathroom deliberately, uh, at a time when she would have to order. To avoid having to order and she'd stay in the bathroom long enough So that she wouldn't have to so that she'd make sure her mother ordered Wow, I need to We need to challenge that and we need to and it exists and it's alive and it's well And i'm sorry to you know an organization that I may have been critical of You know on the last, um on the last podcast, you know where They seem to have really been focused on giving children a community and a voice and a place.
You know, I was overly critical of that where I said, no, give them therapy, get them on the streets, get them out there because one day they're not going to be in this beautiful community. I apologize for that because I see from the, the things that I learned from you and your dad that, you know, um, that is equally, if not a lot more important.
But I think together those things could be very powerful.
[00:53:30] Uri Schneider: You got to feel good. You got to feel well, then you can speak well, and then you can be best. Yes.
[00:53:37] Modi Rosenfeld: Be best. Thank. Thank you, Melania Trump. Um, uh, okay. So all DMs and all, all questions should go directly to Schneider speech spelled with C and i before E and all kinds of ways that
[00:53:52] Uri Schneider: you'll figure out it's E I actually.
Yeah, I have no idea backwards, but we also have on Instagram at @SchneiderSpeech, I, before it was the
[00:53:58] Modi Rosenfeld: worst thing ever in school for me. Except for all the exceptions. Except for the exceptions. And then, uh. It was a nightmare for me. Um, anyway, so they should all reach out to you directly and talk to you about what they can do for their children and whoever else is in their life that has stuttering.
We are so happy that you joined us. Thank you so much for the story about the Rebbe. Wow, did not see that coming. That was really a sacred encounter that we just had today. Arthur, I can't thank you enough for dressing the way you did today. This is just, you killed it. You slayed every, every, slayed, slayed.
Um, again, thank you again to Weitz & Luxenberg for being our partners and collaborators and making this happen. And thanks to A& H Provisions. And thank you all for listening. Um. I am. Wow. Modilive. com. Be the friend that brings the friends to the comedy show. By the time this airs, there'll be shows still available.
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[00:55:26] Periel Schenbrand: am at Periel Ashenbrand on Instagram and you can For now. For now. Modi's trying to change my name. Um, Um, and all my upcoming shows and endeavors are on there. Thank
[00:55:38] Modi Rosenfeld: you. Anything you want to plug for you?
No?
[00:55:41] Uri Schneider: Okay. Just want to say thank you. I thank you. The most important thing for people who stutter is number one, to keep talking. Amen. And for the world to listen. We need to learn to listen to each other. Everybody has to learn to listen to other people. And people who stutter just need that chance. Give them a chance to be heard.
You're gonna, you're gonna be happy you did. You're gonna hear great things.
[00:56:00] Modi Rosenfeld: Great. Thank you all very much.
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